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- Subject: Re: bincancel:5 large binaries:AR123:@@NCM
- Message-ID: <ARMM-Report-123.A@redpoll.mrfs.oh.us>
- References: <ARMM-Report-123@redpoll.mrfs.oh.us>
- Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 13:34:59 GMT
- From: red@redpoll.mrfs.oh.us (Richard E. Depew)
- Followup-To: news.admin.net-abuse.misc
- Organization: ARMM Cancellation Services
- Keywords: ARMM9
-
- Binary posts do not belong in unmoderated discussion groups.
-
- I have issued 5 cancels for large binary files (average size 294,409
- characters - total size 1,472,049 characters) posted to 5 different
- unmoderated discussion groups in the comp and rec hierarchies with one
- cross-post to an alt group as follows:
- 1 rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
- 1 rec.games.mecha
- 1 comp.sys.mac.apps
- 1 comp.sys.amiga.audio
- 1 comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio
- 1 alt.3d.studio
-
- The cancel in the alt group is an unavoidable consequence of the way
- cancels work. A cross-posted article is only one article. When it is
- canceled from an inappropriate group it is canceled from all groups.
-
- This pointer is being posted to each affected group.
-
- Each of the groups listed above is an affected group, meaning that at
- least one binary file was canceled from that group. If you want to see
- exactly which file that was or the criteria that I used to select it,
- read the full report in the newsgroup news.admin.net-abuse.announce.
- The full report is the parent article to this message, and has the same
- subject. It has been cross-posted to alt.nocem.misc and alt.retromod.
-
- There has been a long-standing consensus among news administrators that
- binaries belong in binaries newsgroups, and not elsewhere. There also
- seems to be a consensus supporting the cancellation of large binaries in
- discussion groups as long as appropriate protocols are followed.
-
- In my opinion, the best way to distribute binary files is via ftp or
- the web. With the ready availablity of ftpmail servers, even uucp
- sites can retrieve binaries from ftp sites.
-
- However, if you really must post a binary to Usenet, please post it to
- an appropriate binaries newsgroup such as alt.binaries.misc. Then, if
- you like, post something in the appropriate discussion group telling
- people where to find the binary in the binaries group (a pointer to
- the binary). This will permit news administrators and users to decide
- for themselves whether to receive the binary files.
-
- Please direct public feedback to news.admin.net-abuse.misc and private
- feedback to myself at red@redpoll.mrfs.oh.us. If there is an
- unmoderated binaries group in the hierarchies that I scan, I don't know
- about it yet. Feel free to enlighten me.
-
- Best wishes,
- Dick
- --
- Richard E. Depew, Munroe Falls, OH red@redpoll.mrfs.oh.us (home)
- It's over, and can't be helped, and that's one consolation, as they
- always say in Turkey, when they cut the wrong man's head off''
- -- Charles Dickens
-